unbeknown to us at that time, it has an ingredient in it that mid wives used to use to induce labor. [laughter] so about two in the morning, you know, my wife awakened me and said the baby's coming. and i said it doesn't work that way. i said, see, what happens is you start having contractions ten minutes apart and then five and then two minutes, and then we call the hospital -- she said i understand all that, but the baby's coming. [laughter] i looked, and the baby was crowning, so we had to deliver the baby at home. and he's been in a hurry ever since then. >> host: randall's in seminole, florida. hi, randall. >> caller: hi, i how you doing? it's an honor to speak with you, dr. carson. >> guest: thank you. >> caller: thank you for all the young lives you've save inside the operating room as well as the other ones you continue to save with all your inspiration to others. i had the pleasure and honor of meeting you at least 15 years ago in florida on a black-on-black crime seminar, and i remember almost everything you said on that day. i remember you talking about touring a tennis sh